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Doha gets set to hold Israeli Apartheid Week for a third year

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Israeli Apartheid Week poster
Israeli Apartheid Week poster

Activists in Qatar are gearing up to participate in Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW), and will kick off a series of events and lectures locally from March 22 to 28.

IAW is an annual event usually marked by university students around the world in February and March, with the aim of raising awareness about the plight of Palestinians and sign up supporters for the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) campaign.

Through IAW and BDS, supporters hope to urge Israel to end its occupation of Palestinian land; grant equal rights to Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel; and acknowledge the right of some refugees to return to their homes, according to BDS’s website.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

The upcoming conference in Qatar, which is hosting an IAW for the third time, will likely gain fresh urgency following this week’s re-election of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who withdrew his support for a two-state solution ahead of the polls.

In a move criticized by international leaders, he also warned that Israeli Arabs were turning out “in droves” to cast ballots, in a move seen as a way to spur right-wing voters to express their support of him.

Lineup

In Doha, the opening lecture commences on March 22 at Qatar University, discussing international law and assessing “Palestinian struggles for justice and accountability.”

Other discussions held next week will center around the growing BDS movement and the forms of resistance Palestinians have used historically and today to fight occupation.

There will also be two movie screenings at Katara Cultural Village.

One is The Battle of Algiers, a 120-minute 1966 classic about Algeria’s war for independence. The second, The Turtle’s Rage, is a 70-minute film about a man who is unable to return to Palestine, and the questions from his daughter that he cannot answer.

For more information on the conference, see its Facebook event page here.

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Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

First, remove all Intel Pentium and Celeron computer processor chips from personal computers (desktops, laptops and notebooks) as these were either developed or manufactured in Israel.

Ibrahim Ali
Ibrahim Ali
6 years ago

We get it, you got mad googling skills.However, I would like you to know that Pentium and Celeron are F***ing outdated chips, I doubt you’ll find any computer running those unless it somewhere in a trash can already.

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago
Reply to  Ibrahim Ali

The ‘new’ Ivy bridge is also produced in Israel.

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago

Don’t worry to much. Their hate of Jews is inbred at an early age by their schools/parents/societies. Peace never had a chance. I’ve seen it / lived it first hand.

Azk
Azk
6 years ago
Reply to  desertCard

Its not the hate for Jews, more like Zionists but is nothing in comparison to your servitude to the Zionists. Seen it first hand in US. They’ve ended up becoming an Israeli poodle.

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago
Reply to  Azk

Yes I bow down to the almighty star of david and pray toward Jerusalem every day.

Still not sure how we’re their dog though.

Let’s get this straight though that for Muslims it’s a religious thing, not a state thing. Let’s just be honest.

And remember, the group that lived there first were Jews and Christians so…

brorick
brorick
6 years ago
Reply to  desertCard

I dont hate jews, but I hate Zionists. in fact I find those who dont hate zionists no better than those who supported Hitler.

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago
Reply to  brorick

So they don’t have a right to be there when history says otherwise?

brorick
brorick
6 years ago
Reply to  desertCard

History also says that Germans owned their land before jews 1930’s doesnt mean they had the right to kick out any jew out of their house and kill them! which is kind of similar to whats happening now in Palestine.

Lets say its different,why doesn’t america give back its land and Australia too?

and anyway, maybe you misunderstood me. Jews (should) have the right to live wherever…whether it be Europe or the Middle East. I get angry when ISIS kills Jews, Christians or anyone, because these people are Iraqi and they were in Iraq before Muslims were. Except Jews and Gentiles should be treated equally!

Ibrahim Ali
Ibrahim Ali
6 years ago

Oh although I was sarcastic, I was terribly wrong, you ripped off some Facebook page without a proper citation. The website can’t tell the difference between an Israeli and a jew. However, more importantly, you’d expect someone working at Triolearn to be better at researching and citing.

Huzz
Huzz
6 years ago

Dan, I do believe that they were researched and produced in Ireland.

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago

so your point is you can be the biggest douche in the universe as long as you invent good things….. you woud have loved the world if the Germans took over, they had great scientists i guess that makes everything els they do ok

Red_Panigale
Red_Panigale
6 years ago

He never said that, he is simply giving a list of items to boycott for your boycott Israel program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries

Here is a full list of items you should boycott.

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago

Give it a rest, you’re such a spammer. We get it they invented all tech and everything good, they’re indispensable and all that. So I guess we should be fine with everything else they do, cause if you invent coke and some tech then you must be an awesome humanitarian. .

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

Discard all mobile phones, as this technology was developed in Israel, where the first mobile phones were manufactured. Mobile chip technology from a single Israeli company has now been installed in over 100 million devices. (Only if your serious about the boycott, of course).

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

If you have diabetes – do not measure or inject Insulin using the devices developed by Israeli scientists.

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

From 1966 onward Coca-Cola has been a staunch supporter of Israel. Recently the Government of Israel Economic Mission honored Coca-Cola at the Israel Trade Award Dinner for its continued support of Israel for the last 30 years and for refusing to abide by the Arab League boycott of Israel. (Are you still drinking Coke?)

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

The USB Flash drive, invented by the Israeli company M-Systems. (Please don’t use USB flash drives anymore!)

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago
Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago

Disturbingly, Hawking would have died long ago from neglect, societal scorn, and inadequate medical assistance if Israeli technology hadn’t been used. Even his whole computer-based communications system runs on a chip designed by Israel’s Intel team.

waqas
waqas
6 years ago

Fine man, we get it. Israelis are thriving in technology. At the same time they have seyt new standards in terms of continued illegal occupation, illegal settelments and collective punisment of civilians through in discriminate bombimg of civilian areas

The Reporter
The Reporter
6 years ago
Reply to  waqas

I agree with all of what you say, but in the same context you have to mention the rockets that rain down on Israel. The only chance of the solution to the conflict is objectivity – one sided rhetoric just devalues any argument.

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago
Reply to  The Reporter

thats like saying you cant mention the genocide of native americans without taking about all the arrows they fired at colonists. objectively speaking there is a difference between the occupier invading, displacing, colonising and the locals fighting back

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago

and why not?

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago
Reply to  waqas

So, what exactly are you going to do to boycott Israel? Meet, talk, talk, talk, have a Coke? Or what?

Motiur
Motiur
6 years ago

Your own statement appears to self contradictory. You are trying to say Israel has developed a lot of scientific devices so, you are not happy with the event. My point is, at the same time Mr. Hawking also has a vital contribution in science and technological development. So, how can u say him disturbing! even he did not grab any land of others!!!

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago

Daniel, I enjoy your posts, but a bit unsure about these. What is the connection between your list of Israeli scientific achievements and the debate on the Palestinian issues? Sincerely bemused…

Michael Fryer
Michael Fryer
6 years ago
Reply to  KATYA

I think a list of products which are manufactured by staunch supporters of Zionism is pretty relevant to a discussion about boycotting products which are finding Zionism and the displacement of the Palestinian people.

I’m much more interested in the chorus of people who go to great lengths to tell everyone how horrible the plight of the Palestinian people is, but who wouldn’t stop buying their favorite products if that was a way to help.

For instance, do you live in a building or compound with G4S security guards? If so, you are part of the problem.
http://www.bdsmovement.net/activecamps/g4s

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Fryer

I understand your point, but I think it is unlikely that boycotting or sanctioning Israel even in the most successful way is likely to lead to a long-term resolution of the conflict. I also do not think the that use of the terms like ‘Zionism’ contributes to the solution in a helpful way. As the multiple historical examples demonstrate the long-term solutions can only be achieved on the grounds of a dialog and a ‘win-win’ basis, otherwise the tensions just get buried for a period of time with potentially explosive consequences in the future.

Michael Fryer
Michael Fryer
6 years ago
Reply to  KATYA

Lucky for you no one will ever actually put their money where they claim their heart is and boycott Israel in any meaningful sense.

What’s the bet that the image used of Prof Hawking for this article was drawn by someone who *says* s/he supports the Palestinian cause, and supports the BDS campaign, but owns an Apple computer anyway.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/boycott-israel-pass-me-your-apple-mac-please/

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Fryer

Lucky for me? Really not happy with you making very shallow assumptions here. The suffering of the Palestinian people is lucky for me, somehow? You are not listening to what I am saying.

The Reporter
The Reporter
6 years ago

I’m, not sure of the relevance of your posts but out of interest what has Israeli technology got to do with Hawking’s chipset? Maybe it came from an Israeli manufacturing plant but the technology of integrated circuits certainly didn’t originate in Israel

Nuremburg
Nuremburg
6 years ago

Equivalent of saying “Qatar is a significant foreign aid supporter to X! How could they insult our human rights?!” Absolutely irrelevant in every sense, manner and fashion a thousand times over. Developing a chip set does not redeem the murder and use of chemical weapons on innocent children.

AnonymousExpat
AnonymousExpat
6 years ago

I think your brain runs on an Israeli chip. If Israeli technology hadn’t been used in your brain, you’d be a Palestinian.

azk
azk
6 years ago
Reply to  AnonymousExpat

lol

brorick
brorick
6 years ago

even more disturbing,1000’s would also still be alive if they had not been murdered by the Israel!

The Reporter
The Reporter
6 years ago

So we should all be eternally grateful to Israel for all the wonderful technology we have today. We also have Israel to thank for the initial theft and annexation of the West Bank, the blockade of Palestine that leaves a whole country in a desperate plight, and following Netanyahu’s latest announcement the certainty of the perpetual continuation of the Middle-East conflict. The fact is that it is in Israel’s interest to be at war with it’s Arab neighbours because that is the price Israel is prepared to pay to convince western states to continue pouring funds into the country, and that it has the right to retain the West Bank as a means of defence. Don’t accuse me of anti-sematism because I have absolutely no problem with the Jewish race, but I have every problem with Israel. Western states should stop the funding tomorrow.

Ali
Ali
6 years ago
Reply to  The Reporter

I wonder if all this technology would have been developed if they hadn’t been given land belonging to other people? If so where would they have been based?

Huzz
Huzz
6 years ago
Reply to  Ali

Argentina

Ali
Ali
6 years ago
Reply to  Huzz

Somewhere closer to the US I think, or may be inside. Alaska! Plenty of land there to build settlements on.

Red_Panigale
Red_Panigale
6 years ago
Reply to  Ali

Egyptian civilization, the one that built the pyramids and sphinx and was responsible for immense progress, was black until the Arabs invaded their land and killed everyone there and took the land for their own. Now black Egyptians are worse than second class citizens in the land their ancestors built.

Boycott Egypt?

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

actually egypt didnt turn into a mess until after world war 1. it has been invaded and taken over many times sense the time of the pyrimds. difference between arab invasion is that the arabs turn people instead of replacing them. israel is not a nation of locals that turned were turned from A to B. its a nation of colonists that displaced the locals and took their land

Ali
Ali
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

No ones talking about Egypt here.

Nuremburg
Nuremburg
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

There is a distinct difference in tribal warfare between wandering nomadic peoples over the Nile Valley 1,500 years ago and the (very recent) systemic eviction and genocide of a largely helpless and unarmed population from the lands they have been inhabiting for over 4,000 years. A more suitable analogy would be the genocide perpetrated against the Native Americans by the British; and yes, I don’t think you will find a single non-American who will argue that it was justified.

Red_Panigale
Red_Panigale
6 years ago
Reply to  Nuremburg

I was pointing out that conquest is the way of world. Humans have been doing it for ages and will continue doing it as long as they exist. Just as the instinct of survival is basic human nature.

If Arabs could eliminate Israel, they would do it right this second, without differentiating between civilians and all. But they are weak so all they can do is boycott while not boycotting Israeli technology (which is hilariously hypocritical)

Survival of the fittest will always be in play, whether you like it or not.

Azk
Azk
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

They already boycott Israeli goods. Israel even tried to oil from Iraq but was refused inspite of American companies running the oil operations. Israeli technology is sold to other companies. If they were to use it to produce their own goods the market would reduce without any sales in nearby countries.

Michael Fryer
Michael Fryer
6 years ago
Reply to  Azk

The Arabs boycott Israel? Don’t make me laugh.

Where do you think Egypt has agreed to purchase it’s gas from. (And the answer isn’t Qatar.)

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Tamar-reservoir-partners-to-supply-gas-to-Egypt-through-EMG-pipeline-394308

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago
Reply to  Nuremburg

By the time the N. Americans were being decimated we were Americans not British. Not proud of it but get the history correct. IN 1776 most of what was known of the americas was east of the Appalachian Mtns.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Ali

I’m no fan of Israel but the land of the Jews was conquered by the Romans and then the muslim invaders so don’t think the Arabs are innocent in this one

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

So this God of mine sends me to your lovely home with a gun in my hand because that God asks me to kick you and all your hopeless family out so I can claim it & live in it and if you don’t leave, I have the right to kill you all because that God of mine promised me this house over 2000 years ago and chose me to do what it takes at any price…I still can’t see the logic of this “Jewish Land”

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I 100% agree. Jerusalem belongs to islam because my God told me Prophet Mohamed went their in a dream, (yeah right, who seriously believes this BS) and Abn Malik builds a huge mosque on top of the original Jewish temple. Then over several generations jews and Christians taxed for being non muslims, sold into slavery or sexual servitude, discriminated against and driven from their own hold land. Yep religion postions everything.

However does that give jews the right a thousand years later to create a new state based on religion to them discriminate against non jews. Most certainly not. The lands invaded and conquered by islam happened a long time ago as a matter of historical fact, but we cannot go back and recreate the people that were killed, sold into slavery and displaced by those wars of conquest.

guest
guest
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

you have no right to disrespect a religion, if your not capable of having a civilized conversation without insulting anyone or any religion then you should keep your opinion to your self as it is not appreciated.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  guest

Well that is just your opinion and I reserve the right to ignore you. Everything I have written is factually correct

Religion does not deserve any automatic respect, in fact it deserves the opposite in some of this things it teaches

guest
guest
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

why wouldn’t it deserve respect? all the religions call for peace and loving everyone else. peoples actions are what causes peoples like you to think it is the religion that should be hated and that it states we should hate one another while they are the furthest thing they could be from religion. being born or saying you are of a certain religion does not in any way makes the religion responsible for your actions. You should start reading more and understand what a religion calls for instead of just throwing baseless full of hate comments .

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  guest

My original comment is waiting to be approved by Doha News… I guess it won’t be. Try reading the books of the main religions and explain the nasty bits.

Just me
Just me
6 years ago
Reply to  guest

If religion are not to be held responsible for people action, what will Isis be doing around the world killing? Lets be realistic about what is going on in the world, some religion which I won’t mention has led people to suicide, and killing innocent people around the world…..Israel should be 1 if there is love and unity no need of creating another state for another religion!

Ism
Ism
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

So maybe people should be like you. Become an idol worshipper and pour milk and feed idols like a fundamentalist hindu that you are.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Ism

I don’t care for Hindus the same as all religions but that is a very bigoted comment. I guess you can’t live in peace with your fellow man

SamSam
SamSam
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

“Jerusalem belongs to islam because my God told me Prophet Mohamed went there in a dream, (yeah right, who seriously believes this BS)”. Who gives you the right to insult the prophet Mohamed and call something of the Muslim belifes “BS” as in Bullshit!??

You have the right not to believe but you don’t have the right to insult others believes!

And this is not the first time you insult Islam or the prophet on DN. You better watch what you say and if DN don’t do anything about it, then the Authorities will.

SamSam
SamSam
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Your posts keeps insisting religious hatred. Not everybody wants to hear your hate rants and insults directed at others and their believes. It’s your right to believe or not believe on what you want and express your views in a polite respectful way, but your insults and hate speech will not be tolerated!

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

You knowwhat guys, if you disagree with me you should just ignore me. Making threats make you seem so intolerant and that you want to shut down freedom of speech. It gives a really bad image of your religion and let’s face it islam needs good PR now not more bad PR.

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

You should be the PR consultant

SamSam
SamSam
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

How about if you don’t believe in my religion you just ignore it instead of insulting it any the prophet? Who is spreading heatred? Me or you? I have not said one word about you the could remotely be considered insulting or intolerant. As I said before, you are entitled to your opinions and state your argument as long as you remain respectful. No I will NOT ignore you if you insult the prophet or my religion and insight religious hatred. Not in this forum and not in Qatar. Got it?!!

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

I will stop when those in your name of your religion stop murdering, raping, discrimating against those that do not share the same belief. Deal?

Daesh, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, various Syrian factions, MILF, Al Shabab and so on.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

I consiser this intolerant. Do what I say or I will have you dealt with by the authorities. A direct attack on me and a direct attack on freedom of speech.

“You better watch what you say and if DN don’t do anything about it, then the Authorities will.”

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

Yes got it. Does that mean you want to kill me? That’s the normal practice for perceived insults against an all powerful deity who cannot defend himself

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

You’re not provoking enough, try harder please

SamSam
SamSam
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

If you have no respect for all religions as you say, then you should have respect for the law. FYI, insulting the religion or the prophet is punishable under Qatari law. You don’t like the law? Will that’s tough! Because it’s the law whether you like it or not. Or maybe you should relocate to a country were they have no such law to preach your hatred.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

I have no respect for religions and what they contain and if you need human laws to protect your faith then at best your faith is weak at worst you are an oppressor of humanity.

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Keep diggin buddy

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Jaded

Why so you can prove your religiom is the best and beat me to death like that defenceless woman in Afghanistan? No thank you, I’ll take the beating every time from small minded people.

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

My religion? You assume too much. I’m just enjoying the show

Zaynah
Zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

MIMH,
If you don’t believe in God or have regard for religion, that’s perfectly fine. No one cares.
As God Almighty says in the Quran “(say to the disbelievers) to you is your way, to me is mine” (surah kafiroon).

I couldn’t don’t think there is anything more apt to say to you. However, what I will say is that you should research into ALL the genocides and wars committed by atheists in the name of no god before you start throwing (the rather unoriginal) line about how religion has caused all the troubles in the world.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

I’m not insulting your religion just explaining why it is not true

BillyBob
BillyBob
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Hater?

Zaynah
Zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

I didn’t say you were being insulting. And even if you were, I dont care enough for your opinion to get insulted.

You haven’t given me any evidence or any reasonable suggestion as to why “my religion” isn’t true. In fact, you don’t seem to have much reason at all. I repeat, most murders and genocides are committed by atheists (like you, I presume) so really, if I adopt your simplistic view, atheism is evil.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

Anything that is believed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

Zaynah
Zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

2 minutes ago

Right, so I am assuming you believe the Universe exists yet you have no scientific, rational, emperical evidence of how it came into existence. Your belief – and that is exactly what is, is based on no evidence. 
Same as you believe that you had a great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother but you have no evidence that she existed. But you know she did otherwise you wouldn’t be here.

The difference is, I do have evidence for the belief in God. I can see it in the creation around us. None of these things, up to the minutest detail of life happen by chance. I can say I am absolutely certain He does exist based on what I see around me and yes, my belief which cannot be measured scientifically – can you say youre absolutely certain He doesn’t exist?

Ultimately, the point is this: I accept that you do not believe in God. I know many do not. Because God Himself said as mentioned in the Quran (paraphrased) “many will not pay heed to My (God’s) signs and die as disbelievers”. If God has said this, why am I bothered that you don’t believe in Him?
The question is why are you bothered when I believe him. If anything, your atheism is far more militant and intolerant than my faith. 
“To you is your way, to me is mine”.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

What a strange way to answer.

I guess bone cancer in children is your evidence God exists or the the young child in west Africa with a worm in his eye slowly turning him blind or the the fact you God does nothing as millions are murdered in his name.

To say nothing happened around us by chance shows you have no understanding of evolution, however if it makes you feel better to attribute what you don’t know to a mystical being then that is your right. If to gives you peace of mind I am happy for you.

I am only agrees ive when I see injustice, to give an example to indoctrinate children is child abuse. The child does not get a choice, what their parents believed is forced on them. It gets worse in the Jewish and muslim faiths those same parents multilate their children by removing babies foreskin. They have no choice in is physical attack on their bodies. Where is the freedom of choice for children? Where is the tolerance for children to find their own way in life?

Zaynah
Zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Is that really your argument against religion? Really?
What about the thousands of atheist peadophiles who rape children, the atheist parents who bring up their children with ‘it’s your right, do what you like in life’ attitude and steal, kill, get pregnant at 12 or whatever you want. Your argument is completely nonsensical and to view circumcision as something morally wrong shows your complete lack intellect when many atheist men in North America choose to have their foreskin removed even in adulthood.

As for evolution – if you believe that your forefathers were apes, I am happy for you. and btw, there is NO scientific evidence for it that’s why it’s called a THEORY. Shock! Do you believe in something you have no evidence for?????!!!

You sound like you have a lot of inner rage, directed at religion and people who have a belief. Often that inner rage is a sign that one is not content internally. These type of atheists have been known to kill people. Please look it up on google and then seek help.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

Who are these atheist paedophiles you speak of? Catholic priests or the imams who commited these crimes or maybe Prohet Mohd who married a six year old.

If adults in North america choose to have their foreskin removed of course that is fine, that is their choice. Mutillation of children is abuse, they have no choice and you have no defence.

You don’t undertand evolution and choose to ignore the wealth of evidence. Again it is your choice to live in ignorance.

As to whether I’m content see below.

zaynah
zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Atheist paedophiles, rapists, thieves, murderers they all exist and you know they do although the media might not highlight their non belief as much it would if the crime was perpertrated by a muslim. As for mass murderers, well, where do i start – Stalin? Mussolini? Pol Pot?

I can say that you don’t know much about religion either, just spurting out the usual lame examples, one of which is to make a false claim about the Prophet pbuh but i was expecting that at some point.

As for circumcision in babies, in that case you should tell those atheist parents to stop doing that to their kids too and vaccinations and making them watch mindless cartoons and anything that the poor child has no say in.

I like the way you moved on from no evidence of God existing, to why does God allow these bad things to happen if He exists to look at all the bad ideas about religion (your major concern being circumcision) and now to look at all the bad things people of religion do. Whilst at the same time ignoring that all these things apply to people of no religion too.

But thanks, I will continue to live in ignorance as you say, and one day we’ll be sure to find out who was correct! Good luck 🙂

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  zaynah

Good luck to you to.

I’ll live life, have fun and be generally a good person. I’m certain my life won’t be wasted.

Zaynah
Zaynah
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

Right, so I am assuming you believe the Universe exists yet you have no scientific, rational, emperical evidence of how it came into existence. Your belief – and that is exactly what is, is based on no evidence.
Same as you believe that you had a great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother but you have no evidence that she existed. But you know she did otherwise you wouldn’t be here.

The difference is, I do have evidence for the belief in God. I can see it in the creation around us. None of these things, up to the minutest detail of life happen by chance. I can say I am absolutely certain He does exist based on what I see around me and yes, my belief which cannot be measured scientifically – can you say youre absolutely certain He doesn’t exist?

Ultimately, the point is this: I accept that you do not believe in God. I know many do not. Because God Himself said as mentioned in the Quran (paraphrased) “many will not pay heed to My (God’s) signs and die as disbelievers”. If God has said this, why am I bothered that you don’t believe in Him?
The question is why are you bothered when I believe him. If anything, your atheism is far more militant and intolerant than my faith.
“To you is your way, to me is mine”.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  Zaynah

For you

SamSam
SamSam
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Well, if you need insults to prove your arguments then you and your argument are weak not my faith. And to answer your comment about laws, societies need laws ranging from traffic laws to civil and criminal laws to function and to perotect its people from people like you who have no regards and respect to others. If you don’t like the law that dose not give you the right to break it. And as I said before, if you don’t like the laws of a this country then go relocate somewhere else. But I will not stay idol while you insult the prophet or my religion and brake the law.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  SamSam

For traffic laws there is evidence of infringement, for criminal aws such as murder, rape, Burglary or whatever there is evidence. Provide me evidence of your a God or deity then I will accept that you need a law to protect them.

(DisClaimer if an omnipotent being need laws to protect him or violence carried out in his name due percived insults then he is not worth worshipping)

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

and the jews conquered it from someone els before the romans. the difference is one invasion is a thousand years ago, the other is ongoing. plus at least the “Muslim invaders” are from the region. half of israel is from eastern Europe

Unknown
Unknown
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

You are right there….. Arab owns no land there

THE (Self Appointed) REF
THE (Self Appointed) REF
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

No one called for a “civilized conversation” Referee but here I go anyway. Looking at this conversation objectively, it looks like MIMH did start with a punch under the belt (“who seriously believes this BS”) but other than that it does all seem part of a civilized conversation. I think there are many more “uncalled for” comments on the other side of the argument. I know a lot of good people from lots of different religions, but we can’t ignore that there are also a lot of nasty people from all different religions. Who has the right interpretation? That will always be a never ending debate.

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago

I believe that suffering in any form and unresolved social and political issues should be highlighted as much as possible and brought into the light of public awareness to encourage debate and a potential dialog between the parties. At the same time, I am unsure about the use of ‘apartheid’ rhetoric which is bound to stir more extreme emotions in both camps and will take us even further away from the above-mentioned dialog and resolution.

Nuremburg
Nuremburg
6 years ago
Reply to  KATYA

Why are you unsure of the use of the Apartheid rhetoric? It is a very sound rhetoric if you ask me (or maybe ask some of the world’s finest minds – Noam Chomsky, Stephen Hawking, Norman Finkelstein). The international community certainly didn’t shy away from shedding light on the atrocities previously committed by South Africa, which Israel is perpetuating in the very same way, and it was successful.

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago
Reply to  Nuremburg

Hello Nuremburg, thank you for your reply in which you present a very reputable list of references. To me it feels like my student years and the quoting ‘the finest minds’ are now long behind me. My question to YOU is do YOU yourself think that such heavily negative and emotionally charged terminology will contribute positively to achieving the ultimate goal of reaching a solution to the Israeli- Palestinian conflict? I can see it might be, indeed, useful when it comes to raising awareness of the issue in a ‘front-page of a tabloid’ kind of way, and I do not deny that it might have its place in a grand scheme of things. To my mind, the true and lasting solution to any conflict can most effectively be achieved by finding a common ground between the parties and not by the war of words that is bound to negatively charge both camps and inevitably cause more distrust and aggressive behavior on both sides.

Nuremburg
Nuremburg
6 years ago
Reply to  KATYA

I hope you aren’t serious about needing reputable references to demonstrate Apartheid South Africa did in fact crumble under the pressure exerted by the isolation strategies imposed over them, e.g. boycotts of conferences and sporting events or economic sanctions. If you would like more information, it is readily available in most books detailing the Apartheid era in South Africa.

As for my personal opinion – yes, I do think it indirectly contributes towards reaching a sustainable settlement for both parties, as was the case in South Africa. I think you’re underestimating the awareness it raises and the economic burden it can cause in the foreseeable future. Boycott movements, though initially minimal in impact, have the potential to be prolific catalysts for diplomatic amendments. Facilitating hostile feelings does not detract from this. That bridge was crossed back in 1948, anyway.

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago
Reply to  Nuremburg

Hello again, as human beings born on planet earth we are innately equipped to deeply connect with our fellow beings without the need of any mind-generated references. You obviously have a well developed and information -packed mind, which can be a great asset, when kept in check and used alongside our true self awareness as simply human beings.

Shock therapy, fear and various forms of pressure can indeed be useful tools to bring the ‘stronger’ party to the negotiating table. The question is what happens after that?

You bring up the example of South Africa, where in my mind, the win- win situation for both parties has never been achieved in the deep and long term sense, the white minority is now suffering and is disadvantaged.

In any conflict there are two sides that are suffering in different ways. We need to be attuned to both if we want to find resolution

Nuremburg
Nuremburg
6 years ago
Reply to  KATYA

Thanks for being civil. Peace is a difficult thing to achieve. Reagen’s Anti-Apartheid Act (economic sanctions) was one of the most effectual methods in circumventing the Apartheid regime in South Africa and was successful in initiating diplomatic negotiations in the 1980s and 90s. As you mentioned, the White minority in South Africa is heavily discriminated against at present. I’m not sure how to respond to that except to mention the disparity between classes is less severe than it was during the Apartheid era.

I do agree with your last point, but the ball is in Israel’s court, and I feel that boycotts and sanctions will give the Palestinians the leverage they require to engage in viable negotiations with Israel. The magnitude of this movement is highly underrated.

KATYA
KATYA
6 years ago
Reply to  Nuremburg

Thank you for your reasoned reply. I understand what you mean. Some common ground has been achieved between us which makes me very happy. Have to go get my beauty sleep now. All the best and nice talking to you.

Red_Panigale
Red_Panigale
6 years ago

Maybe they should boycott Intel processors as well. Not to mention the agricultural technology that has allowed Israel to make the desert green.

Or maybe instead of boycotting and firing rockets, they can try this crazy thing called diplomacy.

Ibrahim Ali
Ibrahim Ali
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

Where have you been all this long? we are desperately in need for critical thinkers like you /s.

AnonymousExpat
AnonymousExpat
6 years ago
Reply to  Ibrahim Ali

I second that. I believe Daniel should be appointed as the Peace Envoy to solve the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. His critical analysis and reasoning skills are a breath of fresh air. The world has been waiting for a thinker of this calibre since the land of Canaan was first occupied.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  AnonymousExpat

Well he might do a better job that the current idiots in Israel, US, Europe and the arab world

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31904962

because when Europeans invade a part of the world and claim it. they will leave if you talk to them

Daniel Schriefer
Daniel Schriefer
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

Israelis and Philistine BOTH occupied the land of the Canaanites and have been fighting for it since 3,000 years. Unfortunately they don’t know how to talk to each other.

azk
azk
6 years ago
Reply to  Red_Panigale

Which cave are you living in? Must be a nice place to revel in delusions.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago

What the world needs is secular states where all are free to make their own choices. States and law based in religion is discriminatory and does not respect human rights.

Israel, Saudi and Iran are the biggest offenders in this.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Oh I forgot Pakistan that uses law to kill and abuse non Muslims

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

And Muslims. Did you see the beating and burning of the woman “accused” of burning the Quran?
Wow. Not ISIS or Al Queda, just normal everyday people beating her, throwing basketball size rocks on her, jumping up and down on here, then lighting her on fire.

MIMH
MIMH
6 years ago
Reply to  desertCard

Unfortunately I watched that video a bunch of men beating a woman and the setting her on fire for insulting Islam. Shameful

Mohammed Albanai
Mohammed Albanai
6 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

the difference between these nations is only one of them is made up of colonists.

also you should add secular states like north korea and china to the list of nations with no respect for human rights. actually you could add many countries to that list depending on your definition of “respecting human rights”

johnny wang
johnny wang
6 years ago

Well we can blame others for our problems some of the time but not always. Perhaps its time to look at the problem somewhere else now

RJ
RJ
6 years ago
facty
facty
6 years ago

In 2006, Hamas won elections in Gaza. But they were put under sanctions because they didnt accept the state of israel. Now netanyahu has won the election in Israel. And has refused a Palestinian state. Will they put sanctions on Israel. Ofcourse not. The Americans are never known to have a spine.

DEEM
DEEM
6 years ago

I could write reams on this… Let’s look at it objectively, without religious bias. The world is outraged at what ISIL is doing- and the methods it employs. Yet 65 years ago, the state of Isael was created with precisely the same objectives – freedom to practice their faith and conduct their way of life without prejudice or persecution from the outside. It’s methods then, and STILL are no less barbaric or inhuman than those employed by ISIL. Yet we do nothing.
For thousands of years the geographical area we now call Israel and its hinterland was occupied by Jew, Arab and gentile in relative harmony. Then in the 11th century, European Crusaders sought to take that land and impose its own rule – in the name of Christianity.
There was nothing Christian about what the crusaders did. There is nothing Islamic about what ISIL is doing, and nothing Jewish about what the State of Israel has been doing to Palestine and her peoples.
If we stand against ISIL for its methods – if we hang our heads in shame over the actions of our ancestors a thousand years ago, then surely, we must stand against Israel – even if we DO risk being branded as anti Semitic.
Israel…Waving the “holocaust” card, I am afraid, is no justification for your policies, your actions, your aims or objectives.
Stop…. Now.

desertCard
desertCard
6 years ago
Reply to  DEEM

They were trying to take it back from the muslims who conquered it.

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

I believe Israel is the only country in Middle East which Muslims living peacefully.

Jaded
Jaded
6 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Oh yes, pure harmony

Lelouch D' Merci
Lelouch D' Merci
6 years ago

boycott the word itself and keep the hatred in your brains forever..

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