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Mother of British teacher shares details of daughter’s death

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Lauren Patterson with boyfriend James Grima.
Lauren Patterson with boyfriend James Grima.

Nearly a week after Lauren Patterson was last seen alive, her remains have been positively identified by dental records, a family friend has told Doha News.

With the confirmation of her death, relatives have revealed horrific details about what they believe to be the 24-year-old’s final hours.

Speaking to the Daily Mail while in Doha, Alison Patterson, the 58-year-old mother of the deceased, said her eldest child is believed to have been stabbed to death by an acquaintance.

The man, which the UK tabloid identified as Qatari, had given Patterson and her friend a ride home when leaving a nightclub at La Cigale in the early hours of Saturday, Oct. 12.

According to the family, which has thus far only spoken to the Daily Mail, the man is said to have dropped her friend off and then taken Patterson back to his home, where she was allegedly stabbed to death.

It is unclear whether a sexual assault took place, because Patterson’s remains are too badly burned to tell. The Mail, which posted its report online around 1am this morning and removed it without explanation 12 hours later, continues:

“The alleged killer and an accomplice then drove her miles out of the capital Doha and dug a pit in the desert which they filled with charcoal before pouring petrol on her body, setting it alight and fleeing.

The blaze was so intense that her body was reduced to ashes apart from a piece of her skull and her feet.”

Patterson’s body was found the same day, when a Qatari hunter and his falcon discovered the burning corpse, the Mail reports – a story corroborated by a Doha News source as well.

Police apparently laid in wait and arrested the alleged accomplice to Patterson’s murder when he returned to the scene several hours later. The police reportedly found petrol cans with the man’s fingerprints on them, and a knife was found with the burned remains.

According to the Mail, the acquaintance was also brought in, both men have both confessed and would face the death penalty if found guilty of murder – though notably, Qatar has had a stay on executions for the past decade. The Ministry of Interior has announced the arrest of two suspects, but offered no further details on the case.

Frantic hours

Patterson’s mother and Malta-based boyfriend first began an online campaign to find the teacher on Sunday afternoon, but only hours later announced on Facebook mourned her loss.

British media initially reported a number of inaccuracies regarding the case, including that Patterson’s body was found in a dumpster and that her body was identified by a distinctive tattoo.

The Mail now reports that despite difficulty in identifying her body, a mouth brace that appeared to belong to Patterson had survived the fire, leading her loved ones to expect the worst.

Online tributes have been pouring in for Patterson, who taught kindergarten students at Newton British School. Parents here told Doha News that they are shocked and saddened by the tragedy.

Meanwhile, Patterson’s mother has said:

“What has happened to my daughter is absolutely terrible but I do not in any way blame Qatar. Dreadful things can happen anywhere. We have been very grateful for the work by officials in Qatar to help bring those responsible to justice.”

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disqus_0pokg1GjBm
disqus_0pokg1GjBm
8 years ago

Rest in peace Lauren Patterson

regularGuest
regularGuest
8 years ago

say what you want but this is what happens when you have alcohol, bars and night clubs. I know this is not always the case, but it had something to do with this horrific murder case.
RIP Lauren, and I hope those responsible are severely punished death penalty would be appropriate, I dont the murderers family to suffer for what he did, but naming and shaming would be good too.

ngourlay
ngourlay
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Alcohol and music did not kill Lauren.

regularGuest
regularGuest
8 years ago
Reply to  ngourlay

Music didnt kill her, but the thing that invited the person to that place and then probably led to her murder was the night club and the alcohol

ngourlay
ngourlay
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

No. The reason she died was because a man or men decided to kill her.

lrichard
lrichard
8 years ago
Reply to  ngourlay

if it was nightclubs alcohol or whatever other reason then we would all be murderers, but we aren’t are we? its sick men that decide to commit such crimes… there’s something wrong with these people, you show them respect but they harass you on the streets here like you are some prostitute just because you are a foreigner and I can say this because I deal with them every day here in Qatar.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  lrichard

You have hit the nail on the head. Qatari’s take advantage of foreigners irrespective of who they are or where they from. They harass you where ever you are, be it at the workplace, on the roads, in malls, etc & the list can go on. What is the local law doing about this……plain nothing & just keep giving them more & more strength to continue with their bad habits. Lauren did not deserve to die this way, like you say it’s these sick Arabs who in my opinion are mental cases, they just don’t know it yet.

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

You don’t like Arabs much, do you!

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

I don’t have a problem with any religion, ethnicity or nationality but Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth when it comes to treatment of people & women, especially if they are not from an Arab state. It is said that the Arabs hold the jewels of Islam but……!!!!! I am a Muslim, love my religion but these guys paint a very negative outlook for us all. We all want justice to be served for this horrific crime, death penalty….nothing less than this. Qatar needs to set an example & practice what they preach.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Considered to be the scum of this earth? is that your believe or thought or your also hater?

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

“Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth when it comes to treatment of people & women” It’s a good thing the Prophet (SAW) wasn’t an Arab, and neither were any of his companions!

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Yo! Doha NEWSSSS WHERE ART THOU??? you claim to be on the abuse alert watch when we say J E W , but when this smart alec AAM says “Arabs are considered to be the scum of this earth” you pull a see no evil, hear no evil , speak no evil. I think you probably share their views of us Arabs, eh?

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

I used the word “considered” & this is the worldwide opinion of the Arabs. Whether I agree or share this thought, the right belongs to me. I have no problem with the Arabs or the Arab world & I have been living in the GCC for more than 13yrs. I have seen & witnessed a lot of racial issues among the Arabs, sometimes between themselves might i add but they are thought to respect the fair skin & everyone else is just like their servants at home. Again, I dont have any issues with the Arabs but their mindset & methodology of judging people needs to change. Going for Salah 5 times a day will not help their cause (my opinion) but why lose the benefit of prayer when you have a negative mind about humanity.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

You have hit the nail on the head. Qatari’s take advantage of foreigners? LET ME CLEAR IT TO YOU…………. It’s Bullshit, Next time when your in the road, mail or whatever try to be sure who’s Qatari and who’s not, wearing a Thop or Jeans doesn’t make you Qatari by all mean. I’ve English, American’s Jos friends for more then 15 years boys and girls, and never one day had problem & that’s only your personal opinion. Oh let me share another story with you, my next door neighbor is English she called me for help 2 months ago, i came out my house she was so scared i asked her are you ok, she said no, tow Qatari guys following me, Guess what? When she pointed at the car while we are outside, found out they are not Qatari, so why the hell i say Qataris all the same.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Alkuwari

Amazing how the truth hurts mate!!!!!! Your response is more aggressive & defensive instead of actually adding to this horrific crime committed by……..yes QATARI’s.

Aisha
Aisha
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

OK why are you sure they are Qataris, have you heard anything ? and what if they are not Qataris ? what do you have to say

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Aisha

Clearly mentions Qatari’s & they have confessed, read the article again Aisha. I would have said otherwise if it was not mentioned as Qatari’s. Have you heard of women being followed from night clubs, bars, etc in Qatar? My wife & I have on numerous occasions given single women lifts to their residence simply because they were being hounded like preys by whom………..yes u guessed it, Arabs. Did you see westerners following taxi’s to these women’s residence or perhaps I am wrong here. Is this an example of the law in Qatar where the female community are not safe from enjoying themselves? Women are their weakest when they are having fun yet these animals think otherwise & have their own agenda. Lauren was the victim, she was not the PREDATOR!!!!!

Aisha
Aisha
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

if you are talking about the daily mail article? you know it has been removed for some reason right ? also the animals you talking about are everywhere even where you come from!! my question is what if they are not Qataris? this is just a question I’m not picking a fight or siding with anyone

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Aisha

For now we have to believe the media & it is still mentioned in the above article.

“The man, which the UK tabloid identified as Qatari”

Can you think of a reason as to why it was removed? Many issues involving locals are swept under the carpet here so as to maintain their supposed innocence & not paint a black picture to the outside world. If they prove that they are non Qatari’s then whoever they are must get the full punishment of the law, which is also applicable where I come from, no leniency irrespective of nationality. I have nothing against “any nationality” & have lived among Qatari’s for more than 13yrs. I can guarantee you it was never this bad when we first arrived here or never heard of such heinous crimes, so what has changed? Why has this beautiful little state changed? My opinion is that nightclubs & bars must not allow single men to enter, strictly couples & this will negate incidents such as the case of poor Lauren, God Bless Her Soul!!!!!

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

They clearly mentioned, she found at dumpster? Then the lights come out and Dailymail news Was wrong right?????? So why should we believe news paper before i found out the truth…

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

AAM, No one said she was predator but can you answer my question please.

1-Can you tell who’s Qatari & Who’s not?
2-what is Arab means to your believe?

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Alkuwari

1. No one can say this besides the media & is still mentioned in the article. For now we have to take it as it’s stated, unless proven otherwise.
2. Arab national/citizen irrespective of country. On the other hand, I defend the Arab world all the time & believe in the faith, hence the disappointment to hear that Arabs where involved.

Anything further habibi, dont be afraid to check in with me again!!!!! Have a great evening.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Ain’t afraid of nothing i did wrong, remember its freedom of speech & i guess you know nothing comes out from the Media is always really mate a wise man like you should hold until you found the truth.

desertCard
desertCard
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

I know many of my western girl friends who have had that experience. And like a spoiled brat when they don’t get what they want… When you’re brought up with NO not being in the vocabulary you think the whole world is your oyster.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Shall i laugh or ignore your message, I’m defensive because of your way of thinking, but trust me i’m laughing here because, of the way you think we all bad, And u said u lived here for 13 years and what happen to the pretty small state, i guess you need to think twice before you say a words, And i don’t agree with you about clubs should be only couple. I’m Pro Music Producer & DJ, i guess by saying this everyone knows who i am now, And i can sure you few Qatari’s they are into the clubs, it seems your 13 years living here, still didn’t discover Qatar right. Let’s go back to the point, we all feel bad to what happen to Lauren & god rest her soul,

but i do believe you said Qataris, and arab are scum of the worlds, right? So that’s goes from murder to personal hate. So u expected me to say oh yes your right.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Alkuwari

I guess you are not well traveled such as myself to hear what people talk about the Arab world. I always defend them because I believe in religion & the roots of Islam belongs to the Arab & Islam does not teach this, or does it, please enlighten me? This is the reason that I am disgusted that this crime was committed by Arabs & my family & I moved to Qatar mainly for the Islamic culture, well so much for that isnt it? What will I tell the people whom have pointed fingers as Arabs being the scums & say yes AAM i told you so & there u go now u have the proof right in front of you. How do I respond to this besides saying that this is not what Islam & Qatar teaches/preaches & these criminals will bear the full brunt of the Qatari law. I dont hate anyone, i just dont like people such as the ones who committed this crime. I never said Qatari’s are scums, read it again!!!!! It was a general statement on Arabs…….again which is the perception of the outside world quoted by me. If you are an Arab then at least I have enlightened you on what the world thinks of Arabs.

As for who u are, I dont u & never heard of you but good luck with your DJ’ing & producing.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

AAM, I go under the name YOUNGS2AR, Music producer of House Music and have big profile, I’m talking loud and clear its never show off or anything. And i thank you for stand for Arab among others when they don’t know what is Islam, I also do that my self and i know our Islam never told us go kill and walk away because your Arab or Qatari, If you read carefully I’m against what he did or whoever did it and if i am judge i will give him the max. understand from the way you talk your pilot, but let’s clear this i do traveled lot and never heard it on my face, I always if you consider your self a man please by my guest and come say it loud and clear on my face or come to my house for tea and say it, and i will explain we are not what you think who we are. It’s the media.

PS. nothing personal.

Magic Magnum
Magic Magnum
8 years ago
Reply to  Alkuwari

I knew it was you from the beginning dude. 😉

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  Magic Magnum

Nothing to hide mate, i always use my real name nothing to be shamed off.

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

AAM an appalling sentiment in my book. It is so easy to stereotype. Just recently in the UK a young French student was horrifically murdered on a train that a br Tishri man. That says Nothing about British men or the general attitude of Brits to French women.
I Suggs , if you find living in an Arab nation so dreadful, you go home. Lauren was murdered , by individuals, not a nation or an ethnic type

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

Your damn right.

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

Nope..this person is prolly a convert to Islam, but was mistreated by the muslim that may have played some role in their life, and now theyre taking it out on “All arabs”!…AAMs’ sweeping generalisations are simply poor debate

Win
Win
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Correction ….. Guest said ‘ its sick men…. ‘. NOT ‘its these sick arabs’. You are misquoting him.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Win

Unfortunately for you my friend, all these men involved are Arabs!!!!!!!! so the word fits their profile because this is what they really are, SICK!!!!

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Win

Sadly all these animals where Arabs & they are certainly mentally sick!!!!

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  lrichard

I hear you! And you’re planning to leave Qatar when? 🙂

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Don’t say that; it’s big haram here for a Qatari to say to someone, “leave if you don’t like it.” Expats can say it to one another, but we cannot say it to them. Kind of like the N word 😉 And if you don’t like this policy, they’ll tell you “you can leave and go elsewhere to comment” :p

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Highly doubtful…Their Aryan supremacist colonising attitude means nothing to me and as a Qatari on your own turf, it shouldn’t to you either, and no , its not haram to tell them to leave, from the anti-Islam and anti-Qatar nonsense they’re spewing on here, it’s highly halal!
As for policy, this site has enough archived material to place in precariously deep enough water to build a legal case against it. E7na fe bladna ou nenhaan ba3ad…la namat 3eyoun iljubana!

desertCard
desertCard
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

If it means nothing then SU!

antijacks
antijacks
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Idiot…

thedrizzle96
thedrizzle96
8 years ago
Reply to  ngourlay

it’s a generalization to say alcohol and music was responsible, in the same way one might generalize about gambling or drug use affecting society and conceptions of what is right and wrong; counter argument guns don’t kill people, people kill people, the majority of the people can buy a gun for legitimate purposes, the minority will bring violence into society because of it. Alcohol, nightclubs, partying and dancing for the those maladjusted can be a fuel for violence, which could be why you see more fights in nightclubs and bars than in restaurants and coffee shops, it’s why these places have security; if Lauren’s killer(s) are from this part of the world religiously speaking, then they shouldn’t have been at a club, or drinking or driving around with women anyways! Ultimately, whatever the catalyst was, this person(s) is responsible, and should pay the price and will eventually pay the price in one lifetime or the other, whatever complex mental, societal, or other problems this person had that led to this violence should be and will be to an extent examined and evaluated by individuals, families, communities and enforcement agencies to understand and try to prevent these things from happening; and those who frequent bars and clubs I’m sure will take steps to ensure their friends and loved ones are looked after. RIP to Lauren, her pain is over, and may her loved ones be strong and patient in this trying time

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Are you seriously suggesting where she went had anything to do with her murder? You sir are an idiot. If she has a Starbucks and a shawarma would you blame those evil
Vices for being stabbed to death?

regularGuest
regularGuest
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

hey Mods, is this person allowed to call me an idiot for my opinion?

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Well three votes down already suggests to me, that some people agree with me….

OK, I take back the comment you are an idiot but your opinion/accussations that going to a nightclub lead to her murder is an iditotic comment.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Seriously? You’re crying to the moderators because someone disagrees with you and called you an idiot?
Newsflash: this isn’t primary school and we’re not on the playground.
Grow up and grow a pair.
Jeez…

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Haven’t you keyed on already…the Mods here and Doha News and their motley crew of regular Qatar-Islam haters are here just to insult us….This undermines good journalism, Waste of a North Western University education if you ask me, if they’re reducing journalism to nothing but a Anti Qatar campaign, akin to that of the jerry springer show..Which is odd, its inexcusible!..They all hate Qatar but they cling onto us for dear life, even the ones that leave Qatar, cant seem to get Qatar out of their heads! I guess pride can be bought, by the Qatari riyal, otherwise they would have all placed their money where they’re mouth is and left already!

Win
Win
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Just like you do not want people to hate Islam, Qatar and Qataris because of the doing of some stupid people. You too should not generalize others. 2 wrongs never make a right.

desertCard
desertCard
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

No we are all here to bleed the country dry of all it’s wealth then leave it in tatters. LOL You’re the one with the problem. Your post are either extreme anti west/expat, homophobic, discriminatory against anyone non Qatari or Judenhass. Sometimes all in one post.

Shabina921
Shabina921
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Dear, I am not an Islam hater. And apologies, we are a small team and can’t always keep up with the comments. Please flag the ones you find offensive/to be in violation of our comment policy to bring them to our attention faster.

Also, we are not in Qatar for the money. We’ve spent all of our savings on Doha News. We’re running this site as a public service.

greg
greg
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

I agree with the death penalty, but that alcohol,bars and night clubs is the cause….In many countries they do not have alcohol,bars and night clubs, yet they have high crime and murders..

Turbohampster
Turbohampster
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

What a ridiculous comment!
I also find it quite disgraceful that you would use this tragic death to try and push your political agenda!
Using your logic we should also Ban:
-Hotels
-Cars
-Roads
-Knives
-Petrol
-Qatari Men
As these all had something to do with this horrific murder!

Myrddin
Myrddin
8 years ago
Reply to  Turbohampster

May I add:
-Desert
-BBQ Charcoal
-Spades

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Myrddin

Oxygen, yes oxygen the tool of the devil. All crimes can be related back to the fact that the criminal breathed in oxygen before, during and after the crime. Time for it to be banned in Qatar, to achieve 100% safety.

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

I have a better suggestion of what should be banned from Qatar 😉

desertCard
desertCard
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

From your post on other articles as well I’d say you mean anything that’s not sunnah. Correct? I’m sure you don’t mean expats because then the country would implode.

Diego
Diego
8 years ago
Reply to  Turbohampster

Maybe we can add homes too if I remember correctly as the last teacher that was murdered was at home.However alcohol can influence peoples actions,but to say it was one of the root causes here is stretching it longer than a Hummer limo(double size one)

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Thousands of people go to the bars and clubs in Qatar- they don’t murder people. This was a criminal act by, not some drunken spree. As for naming and shaming- the families are not responsible for the actions of a family member- these men acted on their own volition. Nor is the victim guilty, she was the victim.

Guest8
Guest8
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Blaming alcohol, bars, dancing is a total cop out, not to mention totally illogical. As you said in your own comment, “those responsible,” i.e. the human beings (not inanimate objects) are at fault here.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  regularGuest

Court case, few yrs in jail (big if) together with some blood money & they will be free, this is the rude truth about the law here…..for locals only but an expat will feel the full rule of the law.

osamaalassiry
osamaalassiry
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Blood money isn’t for murder… It can be accepted for manslaughter.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  osamaalassiry

Are you telling me that this was not a premeditated killing? Everything these animals did was premeditated & planned. Murder is murder irrespective of the circumstance & you are also innocent until found guilty or confess to the crime. You dont have the right to kill another person. Blood money is an escape route for life sentence or the death penalty.

osamaalassiry
osamaalassiry
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

I’m simply saying this looks like murder, and not manslaughter… Blood money is NOT an escape route for life sentence or the death penalty.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  osamaalassiry

Do you believe in the methodology of kill & be killed, an eye for an eye? What would u say is the correct punishment for this heinous crime?

osamaalassiry
osamaalassiry
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Reminder:

Murder= somebody wants to kill somebody, and kills them.
Manslaughter=somebody doesn’t want to kill and somebody dies by mistake.

Guest8
Guest8
8 years ago
Reply to  osamaalassiry

Out of curiosity, is blood money ever required or given in cases of murder? I don’t mean to buy one’s way out of punishment (you already made that clear). I just genuinely wonder whether it is used in straightforward murder cases.

Ali
Ali
8 years ago

What about the other guy Nasser Al-Naimi we keep hearing about? Will he be deported from Saudi Arabia? Is there such a treaty between Qatar and Saudi Arabia?

Sarah2473
Sarah2473
8 years ago
Reply to  Ali

So he wasn’t amongst the two that were arrested? I heard that the man who ran away to Saudi returned & got arrested.

Ali
Ali
8 years ago
Reply to  Sarah2473

I hope that is true. I thought there are 3 guys, 2 arrested and the 3rd one ran away.

HalfManArmy
HalfManArmy
8 years ago
Reply to  Ali

He’s just an ex boyfriend. not a suspect. Dohanews didn’t bring him up only one of the commenters. ngorlikay or something

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  HalfManArmy

Yep, he brought up the name of the boyfriend and accused Doha News of self censorship for not publishing the name of the boyfriend. Some seemed to agree with him!

I_lived_there
I_lived_there
8 years ago

Let’s see if this Qatari suspect somehow gets “replaced” by another suspect of different nationality. It’s going to be difficult to sweep this one under the rug now that the international media is involved… time for some actual justice?

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  I_lived_there

Do we in fact know if the 2 suspects are in fact Qataris?

Aisha
Aisha
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

no not really we just have to wait and see (:

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  Aisha

So why are they blaming the Qataris?

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Because… 😉

Aisha
Aisha
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

do u agree with what i think that some are hoping they are Qataris?

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Aisha

Very much so.

Aisha
Aisha
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

not sure why,but even if it is or not justice will be made soon so lets hope for the best and to be honest i think people are hoping they are Qatari more than others

Magic Magnum
Magic Magnum
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Because they ARE Qataris.

DavidRSS8
DavidRSS8
8 years ago

According to this, it sounds like the prosecution has been given an easy case to win. Let’s hope justice is served.

Win
Win
8 years ago

RIP Lauren and to the murderers … may god have mercy on your soul.

hawkeye31
hawkeye31
8 years ago

May your soul find peace wherever you are

noty_guy
noty_guy
8 years ago

Strange world .. IF a Asian i.e Nepali would have got killed .. no one would have care .. Human rights are made from those who have Green card ..

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  noty_guy

Err she was a Brit not an American. Get your prejudices right please

HalfManArmy
HalfManArmy
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

he didn’t say she was American

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  HalfManArmy

OK I will explain. A green card is the common term for someone who has the right to permamently work and live in the USA who is not yet an American citizen. That person was implying that Qatar is racist and only cares about the blue eyes. (Now that’s a khaleeji term I am sure you are familar with…..)

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

“person was implying that Qatar is racist and only cares about the blue eyes.” It’s somewhat true though. Also I think not_guy meant to say passport, and not green card.

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Actually I think it has less to do with race and more to do with social/economic status. Brits/Europeans/Americans usually hold the higer and better paid jobs in Qatar so if something happens to them, then themselves or their families have the means to pursue the case. They can also do that through the media as well back home as most of these countries have a free press. (Also the governments and emabssies of this countries are more active, whereas some Asian countries are worried about upsetting the locals and losing their money….)
Asians occupy all levels within Qatar but the majority are in the lower paying jobs and positions. They or their familes do not have the means to pursue such cases through the media or even their embassy and in a lot of cases they just need the blood money as they are desperate. Basically they get paid off and the case is closed.

Guest8
Guest8
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Race and socio-economic class tend to be closely linked the world over, yet I agree with your general point.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

The sad state of the arab world is that they love the white skin with blue eyes. Arabs have a habit of judging people by their skin color & this is very evident in schools as well. Most arabs have descended from Iran, Pakistan, India, etc & they really look exactly like they are from these countries especially after they remove their local dressing style. If you are white then you are right, how sad is this statement…….talk of equality & humanity, 2 criteria’s which are none existent in the arab world.

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

It didn’t seem to help Lauren that she was white. Murder is murder, let’s leave race out of it. It was about sex and power. The men who allegedly committed this vile act will face justice as criminals. It is not the fault of their families, it has nothing to do with nightclubs or alcohol- thousands upon thousands of people go to clubs, dance, flirt, drink to excess- they do not go on to murder someone.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

O but it did just look at the bigger picture. The very fact that she was the fair skin type etc attracted these animals. Like someone said, Qatari’s love the brits & americans & you will agree that they even try to speak like them, how funny. Why dont they try these tricks on other GCC women, there are plenty of arab women in the bars & nightclubs…..erm it must be the language then or is it that they will not attempt this nonsense on their own kind. Locals are asking for these type of people to come work in Qatar simply because they have their own agenda. Qatar law needs to stand up & take responsibility for this & irrespective of local or expat, the full punishment must fit the crime.

Guest8
Guest8
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

You are acting like these guys are your every day Qatari, or Arab for that matter. Ok, fair skin might be highly prized (however prejudicially so) in this part of the world, but these guys are sociopaths. Rapists and murderers usually have a type, and maybe for these guys, it was a white woman, but her murder has nothing to do with her having white skin. It has everything to do with these men being evil for whatever reason.

There’s a huge difference between attracted to or pursuing a woman because of your preconceived notions of her character based on her race or nationality and murdering her. I presume most Qatari or Arab men who are interested in non-Arab white women can have relationships and break ups without resorting to murder.

All that said, I stand by a comment I made on an earlier post. I reckon this woman was murdered by people she trusted because she knew them. Most violence against women is not random, out of the blue. It is premeditated by those she knows and trusts. Lauren had the misfortune of getting to know the wrong people.

Alkuwari
Alkuwari
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Had many exes and break up and still friends with them for more then 10 years or so and nothing happen. Sp who are you to judge and say to people date, black or red or tall or thin? You just remind me of of someone very sad. Oh don’t get angry because you asked for it.

Lisa Clayton
Lisa Clayton
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

How do you know that her skin attracted them?

And I never knew a Qatari that tried to speak like a Brit or American for any reason other than they were exposed to the English language by either. I only wish I could pronounce Arabic like a Khaleeji because I would be better understood 🙂

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Lisa Clayton

I dont think you have lived in the GCC long enough or dont have many Qatari friends or perhaps colleagues. I dont have anything against Lauren & certainly dont support what happened to her or not picking on any skin color etc, but the rude truth of what I said is very true. Qatari’s judge you by your physical appearance even before you mention a single word, they have made up their mind. I have had many run in’s with Qatari’s speaking to me in other languages & only for them to hear my response in my mother tongue (English) raised an eyebrow. Then I was treated very very differently by calling me Mr, Sir, Mudheer, etc……..u get my drift now Lisa?

Lisa Clayton
Lisa Clayton
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

AAM, I have lived in the Gulf for 15 years (teaching at a university in Qatar for 11) as well as having many Qatari & Khaleeji friends, so I spoke from extensive experience. It’s just that my experience is different from yours, although that makes neither more valid than the other. Hope you understand me now 🙂

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Lisa Clayton

Well noted Lisa

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

You are judged by everyone on your appearance which is why all interview techniques stress how important that first impression is. She was murdered. We don’t know how or why, everything is hearsay and speculation until it come to court.
Your assertion that she was somehow a victim because she white and Qatari men find her ‘type’ irresistible is in my opinion nonsense. More relevant is the fact she was female.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

Which part of murder dont you understand? Again, i am not saying it is about race, color or creed. Lauren was a target because Arab men seem to have the mindset that western women are more vulnerable to having a 1 night stand etc hence these men become predators at night clubs etc. When things dont work out for them & cant get their own way, they turn to violence as in the case of poor Lauren. I will again ask: why dont these arabs try this sort of stuff on other arab nationals, think about it. What is it that attracts the arabs to western women, what is it that distracts arabs from other arab nationalities in clubs, bars, pubs, events, etc? I am eagerly awaiting your response.

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Arab men are clearly very attracted to women of all nationalities, evidenced in any hotel in Qatar, and perhaps Arab men are drawn to the intelligent educated and articulate western women here- they are all professionals in their field remember. Lauren was not a pick up one night stand as you insinuate, she knew the men involved. Regardless of which, does not explain or excuse her murder. I also take issue with your assertion that Arab men think western women are more likely prey, having seen many young women in Qatar of various nationalities including Arabs who are certainly as available as any westerner, if not more so, and they are as popular with Arab males.. Availability is not a precursor to violence. Most men of any nationality know how to behave themselves , the problem is that some don’t , and that applies equally to men of every ethnicity. Qatar is filled with young single women, they should be able to enjoy the nightlife to the full here without fear of ‘predators’, although predatory males exist in every country, so most women have learnt how to deal with them.
AAM, your discussion has moved on to laying the blame at the door of the victim

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

I have never once said that Lauren lured them & quite rightly she is the victim. She was the prey & these animals come to clubs as singles looking for women like Lauren. Having fun is not an invite to pounce on a prey, I’m sorry but u got it all wrong my friend. Do u ever see western men chasing after single women in clubs or following them home? Cant someone have fun & just be allowed to get back home, well not so in Qatar I’m afraid. The Arab women u refer to most of the time always come with partners or with friends as a group & i have first handed witnessed how they are hounded by Arab men, yes Arab men 99% of the time.

I do however acknowledge your comment on behavior & women allowed to have a fun filled nightlife, you are indeed correct.

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Lisa Clayton

“How do you know that her skin attracted them?” He could be self projecting 😉

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Arabs are from Arabia. And never tell an Iranian that you thought Iranians and Arabs are the same; you’ll never hear the end of it!

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

you mean the other way around….never tell an Arab that you think Arabs and Iranians are they same…What you suggested would fill their hearts with glee

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

لم أقصد القطريين من أصل إيراني. قصدت الإيرانيين “الفرس” بإيران و بالدول الغربية. الكثير منهم يحتقرون العرب بدرجة كبيرة، أكثر حتى من النظرة الدونية التي ينظرها بعض العرب للفرس أنفسهم. يرون أنفسهم على أنهم جزء من العرق الأبيض (أوروبيين). كتبت بالعربية حتى لايتسع الموضوع و يأخذ أكبر من حجمه. و مثل ما إنتي شايفة، في ناس هني تبي جنازة عشان تشبع لطم. بس الله يعيني على إلي بيجي: واي دو يو رايت إن أرابيك؟ تو أفريد!
topic. Disclaimer: I wrote in Arabic to avoid expanding this

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Ilhuwila sarow 3erj abyath europeyeen! lol thats a new one, talk about reinvention, wallah their concocted identity alibi a7san min il protection program

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow
MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Actually very true, when an Iranian friend told me she was white like Europeans I just laughed. She said why are you laughing, I said maybe in Iran you are considered white but in Europe you would be considered shaded….. Her response, “what do you mean I am not white!??!”
So funny how people see themselves and when one Qatari told me another Qatari was Iranian I said who cares, he has a Qatari passport. His reponses, ‘they even speak Farsi at home”….. wow what a crime, but unlikely to be true as they had at least four generations here.

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

What can I tell you, some Qataris can be real picker woods 😉

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Most Arabs decend from Iran, Pakistan, India etc….are you kidding me! The Najdi thorough bred tribals don’t! *deeply offended*

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

That was an incorrect statement, Arabs came from Africa and in fact homids who live in Iran, India and Pakistan are descended from those first migrants who travelled through Arabia. Although I would concede there was probably migration in the opposite direction later on.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

offended by the truth or defending it? Now you know the feeling when Qatari’s judge people by their physical appearance, this was my point. I am glad that you felt the pain!!!!!!!

Myrddin
Myrddin
8 years ago
Reply to  noty_guy

That is because, for all its faults, UK has a government that has to provide answers. Nepal had an Ambassador who provided answers and she was removed for having the temerity to do so? That is the primary difference.
Do diplomatically ‘incovenient’ British deaths get swept under the carpet? YES they do, look up John Currie in Riyadh.
Thankfully, modern media makes it more and more difficult to make inconvenience magically disappear.
RIP Lauren Patterson

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Myrddin

“UK has a government that is obliged to provide answers” Sad but true. Also, let’s face it, Gulf Arabs just love the Brits, especially the older the generation 😉

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

That is true to a certain extent but it cuts both ways, if asked by the family the UK Embassy will politely push for answers and I am sure the Qatar government will give them. After all it doesn’t want to jepodise all those investments in the UK……

As for say India or Nepal, the trade is all one way and those governments either don’t want to upset Qatar or don’t want to stop the money flowing into goverment hands as after all its just the death of a poor labourer….

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

Me: Father (or uncle, brother, etc.), this is my British friend whom I told you about, his name is Abdul Kareem.

Father: Oh, keefhalk Abdul Kareem.

Father (in Arabic): So where is he from?

Me: He’s British, from Britain.

Father: I know, but where is he originally from?

Me: He was born in Britain.

Father: Yes, but where did his family come from?

Me: Well, his father was born in Pakistan, but moved to Britain when he was 10. His mother’s family has been there for 3 generations.

Father: Sorry son, it’s just that when you said you’re bringing a British friend I was expecting, you know…

Me: (with an awkward smile) Blue eyes and blond hair?

Father: Yeees, where can we get one of those?

“The events depicted here are fictitious. Any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental.” 🙂

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Typical Arab world 🙁 & perfect example Abdulrahman
If u not blonde with blue eyes then you are nothing to Arabs, you are like a servant.
So much for preaching that all humans are born equal, God does not judge so who are these people that do this?

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

Oh it’s not just Arabs; Africans and Asians (most Asians) too 🙂 I heard about some Chinese companies hiring White people just so that they’ll make their offices look nicer 😉

Myrddin
Myrddin
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

I’ve never thought of us as being racially decorative? : )

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  Myrddin

Similar to how there are probably places here that hire Qataris just so that they can show they have local staff 😉

Myrddin
Myrddin
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Perish the thought! : )

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

You forgot to mention the Egyptians in Qatari attire to make the employer appear own old affluence….and If they’re dark in hue…the darker the better, all the more better for the show and tell wow factor..the only issue is when these workers open their mouths to say ” aaaaywa ya fandim”

desertCard
desertCard
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

No most of them do to avoid discrimination. I have an Egyptian friend who’s lived in Qatar for over 30 yrs. He does to avoid that discrimination. His sons don’t and are always bullied. That’s why my kids, and many other foreigner’s kids, don’t go to QA. Same problem.

Abdulrahman
Abdulrahman
8 years ago
Reply to  desertCard

I have a Muslim American friend (originally from the Indian subcontinent) whose son used to go to Qatar Academy. He got along fine with the Qatari kids, but was bullied by a British kid and his friends. They kept calling him a driver and such. Oddly enough the bully’s father was Jewish and his mother was black!

Shabina921
Shabina921
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

Guys, this is completely off topic!!

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Hahahahaha u are very funny but it is true. Dont judge the book by the cover……as is the case in Qatar. But well said my friend!!!!!!

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Deer Bestow

Dont judge the book by the cover……as is the case in Qatar. But well said my friend!!!!!!

Desert Witch
Desert Witch
8 years ago
Reply to  Myrddin

Is there a decorative spectrum I wonder. Yani, the whiter you are – the more decorative.

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  Desert Witch

This is the sad truth & state of the world we now live in!!!!!!!!

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  AAM

The young woman who was murdered had black hair

AAM
AAM
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

Wake up & smell the coffee or rather should I say, catch the drift that is if you understand English or understand the meaning of a metaphor.

MIMH
MIMH
8 years ago
Reply to  Abdulrahman

How very true… I see it happen to Canadians all the time if they are not white, which is odd because they are immigrants to Canada as well….

outdoorsboys
outdoorsboys
8 years ago
Reply to  MIMH

What is this obsession with racial type? Shops are full of products to whiten skin here in Qatar. In the uk you can’t move for fake tan products.

Deer Bestow
Deer Bestow
8 years ago
Reply to  outdoorsboys

That would be for the Ethiopean and Philipino community…Qataris have caught up with the out of the bottle bronze age